The crazy continues

Remember when I mentioned the guys who said your Social Security card number tells which bank owns you and that we are all collateral?

I sat down, and they said on the back of your Social Security card, there’s a number. That number indicates the bank that bought you when you were born based on a projection of your life’s earnings, and you are collateral. We are all collateral for the banks. I have this look like, “What the heck are you talking about?” I’m trying to hide that look and look clueless. I figured clueless was better than argumentative. So they said, “You don’t know this?! You are a member of Congress, and you don’t know this?!”

Here is more about that particular flavor of nut – sovereign citizens

At the heart of their belief system: The government creates a secret identity for each citizen at birth, a “strawman” that controls an account at the U.S. Treasury used as collateral for foreign debt. File enough documents at the right offices and the money in those accounts can be used to pay off debt or make purchases worth thousands of dollars.

Wikipedia has more – seems that when we went off the gold standard in 1933, we pledged our citizens as collateral to foreign banks. At the moment, that strawman is worth $630,000 at birth and a citizen – or rather a non-resident alien – if he follows the process of the leaders of this movement, can reclaim that money from the government. We are actually all covered under maritime law, as evidenced by the gold fringe on American Flags!
Even more detail from the SPLC:

At its core, the current sovereign belief system is relatively simple and is based on a decades-old conspiracy theory. At some point in history, sovereigns believe, the American government set up by the founding fathers — with a legal system the sovereigns refer to as “common law” — was secretly replaced by a new government system based on admiralty law, the law of the sea and international commerce. Some sovereigns believe this perfidious change occurred during the Civil War, while others blame the events of 1933, when America abandoned the gold standard. Either way, they stake their lives and livelihood on the idea that judges around the country know all about this hidden government takeover but are denying the sovereigns’ motions and filings out of treasonous loyalty to hidden and malevolent government forces. Under common law, or so they believe, the sovereigns would be free men. Under admiralty law, they are slaves, and secret government forces have a vested interest in keeping them that way.

The next layer of the scheme is even more implausible. Since 1933, the U.S. dollar has been backed not by gold, but by the “full faith and credit” of the U.S. government. According to sovereign researchers, this means that the government has pledged its citizenry as collateral, by selling their future earning capabilities to foreign investors, effectively enslaving all Americans. This sale, they claim, takes place at birth.

When a baby is born in the U.S., a birth certificate is issued, and the hospital usually requires that the parents apply for a Social Security number at that time. Sovereigns say that the government then uses that certificate to set up a kind of corporate trust in the baby’s name — a secret Treasury account — which it funds with an amount ranging from $600,000 to $20 million, depending on the particular variant of the sovereign belief system. By setting up this account, every newborn’s rights are cleverly split between those held by the flesh-and-blood baby and the ones assigned to his or her corporate shell account.

The clues, many sovereigns believe, are found on the birth certificate itself. Since most certificates use all capital letters to spell out a baby’s name, JOHN DOE is the name of the corporate shell “strawman,” while John Doe is the baby’s “real,” flesh-and-blood name. As the child grows older, most of his legal documents will utilize capital letters, which means that his state-issued driver’s license, his marriage license, his car registration, his criminal court records, his cable TV bill, and correspondence from the IRS will all pertain to his corporate shell identity, not his real, sovereign identity.


All you have to do is believe in this conspiracy – thus accepting that every federal judge in the US knows about it and is part of the conspiracy, all 3500 of them – and over $600,000, or more will be yours.
Talk about a Cargo Cult World supported by fantasies – really intricate fantasies but unreal all the same. Do they really think that 3500 people could keep such a conspiracy a secret? Many of these people are gobsmacked with reality when it turns out they are relieved of many thousands of dollars by the fraudsters and then have to pay the fines that come from not paying taxes. Wesley Snipes tried to escape tax evasion charges by going this route.

You know, sometimes I wonder whether there should be some sort of test to make sure people are not too far removed from reality in order to vote. But In America, even people with crazy ideas can vote. They are even paraded around on many political shows. I’m just glad none of these crazies are not voting for any of the same candidates I am.

[Listening to: Another Man Done Gone from the album “Odetta Sings Ballads and Blues” by Odetta]



One thought on “The crazy continues

  1. This post was the first I had ever heard about these nuts. Then in this morning’s Houston Chronicle, there was an article about them. Not a very extensive one, but it made the nuts sound even nuttier than you did! Which can’t be easy. The Chronicle quotes the “founder” as saying that we aren’t a country, we “are a General Post Office.” There is a statement that makes absolutely NO sense at all.

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