Just because someone told you a lie does not make it the truth

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A quote:

“It’s (Phoenix) called the kidnapping Capital of the United States” by John Kyl.

This was debunked when John McCain said it last month. It was debunked when David Dewhurst said it last month. I am sure it will be debunked again shortly.

But then, the narrative is more important than the facts for those that want to live in a world, one that is only a simulation of reality, not reality itself – a Cargo Cult World.

[Another in a continuing series of posts examining the attempts to create a Cargo Cult World, where truth is fiction and lies simulate reality.]

2 thoughts on “Just because someone told you a lie does not make it the truth

  1. Alright, since kidnappings are not tracked around the world, Phoenix may not be the kidnapping capital of the US. However, over 300 kidnappings strikes me as a few too many. A more nit-picking article I have yet to read. However, since it is just Hispanics being kidnapped, don’t fret about it! A quote from the same article, but at the bottom where no one read it:

    Sgt. Tommy Thompson, a public information officer at the Phoenix Police Department, also said kidnappings are under-reported. “Herein lies the problem with the numbers,” Thompson said. “Does Bogota, Colombia, keep records? Does Mogadishu, (Somalia), keep records?”

    He said Phoenix has been dealing with the issue for several years now, and the number of reported kidnappings have actually decreased since this story broke in 2009. There were 358 reported kidnappings in 2008 (10 fewer than reported by the LA Times, due to later reclassification of the crimes), 318 in 2009 and there were 105 from January through May 2010, he said, putting the city on track to sustain less than 300 this year.

    Mindful that “spillover violence” from Mexico has become a politically-charged term in the U.S., Thompson said almost everyone who is kidnapped in Phoenix is involved in criminal activities such as illegal border crossings and the drug trade. “Unless you’re involved in the dope trade, there’s a very very slim chance” that you’ll be kidnapped, he said.

    “Everyone wants to tie it to their political agenda,” Thompson said. “Again, the two overwhelming questions are, do they keep records elsewhere in the world and are there more people — other agencies — across the nation who are even willing to talk about such a problem?”

    “It was the media that said ‘second in the world only to Mexico City,’ and it was basically because we were open enough to say that we have an issue with kidnappings and not try to hide it,” Thompson said.

    True, “Kidnapping capital” is a headline-grabbing label. But so far, we’ve seen no evidence that it’s accurate, or even close. And since we first considered this claim earlier this month, no one has stepped forward with more information.

    Phoenix has experienced hundreds of kidnappings over the past few years. However, we couldn’t find reliable around-the-planet evidence to confirm that only Mexico City experiences more of them. In fact, experts advise that such rankings can’t be made based on available information. If they could, they speculate, other cities would prove to have more kidnappings than Arizona’s capital.

  2. The point is that there are no facts to support the comment. None. Talking about doing things to lower the kidnapping rates in the US would be a great discussion but that is not the discussion these three men want to have.

    And, moving the goalposts does not change the fact that these three men have all repeated a statement for which there is no factual basis for, none at all.

    The article indicates that the comment was just made up. I could say that Houston is the kidnapping capital of the United States and be just as truthful.

    Which is not actually being truthful at all. It is a just-so story and has as much validity in adult discussions as How the elephant got its trunk does to explain evolution.

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